On Saturday, December 7, and continuing through Sunday, December 22, Rabbit Room Theatre and Matt Logan Productions present an all-new retelling of Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol on stage at FSSDPAC (Franklin Special School District Performing Arts Center 1030 Excellence Way, Franklin, TN). Having been completely entranced by their 2022 teaming for The Hiding Place, I’m just gonna say it, anytime there’s a collaboration between Matt Logan Productions and Rabbit Room Theatre, I’m there! Matt Logan’s genius eye for stage and costume design detail paired with Rabbit Room Theatre’s Pete Peterson’s thoughtful and thought-provoking mastery as a playwright and the results are always spectacular. When I heard the these two powerhouses in regional theatre were coming together to present their vision of A Christmas Carol, I knew I had to feature them in the latest installment of my recurring interview feature, Rapid Fire 20Q. Rounding out the questions to a full 20, I requested a little time with the show’s Ebenezer Scrooge, Chip Arnold and The Ghost of Christmas Past, Ruthy Berends. What follows are all four conversations.
Rapid Fire 20Q with Director, Playwright and Cast Members of Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol
Rapid Fire with Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol playwright, Pete Peterson
JHPENTERTAINMENT: As a playwright, I’d imagine adapting a story so beloved might be a bit daunting. What was the catalyst for taking on A Christmas Carol?
PETE PETERSON: It’s not only beloved by audiences and readers worldwide, it’s beloved by ME. I love this book. I love Dickens. I think stepping up to the plate for a chance to retell a story that has entered the annals of literary history is a real privilege and challenge. And like storytellers have been doing for all of history, retelling the great tales of our language is a way of participating in the long tradition of Story in our culture. We tell stories and retell them over and over, and hopefully each new telling shows us a different facet of the tale so that it takes on new meanings and new relevance. That’s a great challenge and opportunity for a writer. It’s an honor.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: Is there a line you’ve written for A Christmas Carol that you’re particularly proud of?
PETE PETERSON: Again and again, people who read or see the show seem to find resonance in the line “What is hidden cannot heal.” The story is all about these Ghosts revealing hard truths to Scrooge in the hopes that he will change, and those truths are often about how wounded he has been in life and how the covering up of those wounds is what keeps him bitter and alone. Those hurts and traumas from his youth need to be exposed and dealt with if he’s to have any hope of healing and joy. That’s a phrase that’s original to my adaptation and I’ve been really moved by how deeply audiences have responded to it. I think it’s an idea that’s latent in Dickens’ prose throughout the original, and effectively giving it voice through that line is satisfying.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol marks the latest collaboration between you and the show’s director, Matt Logan. Previously Matt helmed productions of The Battle of Franklin and Frankenstein, two of your other plays. What is it about Matt that makes it easy to entrust your written word?
PETE PETERSON: I feel like our imaginations are aligned in some mysterious way. He tends to intuit the way I tell stories and make them better with the design and staging and emotional intelligence he brings to them.. And I like to think I’ve learned to write in a way that allows his imagination to flourish. It’s been a really healthy collaboration. We tend to have a lot of back and forth as the shows develop, so that he can riff off of my ideas and I can riff off of his.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: While I’m sure Chip Arnold is your current favorite Scrooge on stage, which cinematic turn of the past stands out most in your mind?
PETE PETERSON: I feel like it’s a cliche to say The Muppets’ but like all cliches, they are cliches for a reason. It’s hard to beat Muppets. But otherwise I grew up with George C Scott, and I really like the animated version by Zemekis and Carrey.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: After attending a performance of Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol, what do you hope audiences take with them?
PETE PETERSON: One of the questions I’ve tried to wrestle with in the writing process is whether a man is changed (by some external force) or whether a man changes (by his own agency). Ultimately, I think the answer is both–and either way there’s a Spirit involved in the process. I hope folks will go home thinking about how we all might be more open to the people around us and how we all have the opportunity for change, both internal and external.
Rapid Fire with Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol director and designer, Matt Logan
JHPENTERTAINMENT: I think I say this every time I get the opportunity to chat with you about a show, but in my estimation, you are one of the most talented directors and designers the Nashville-area theatre company has ever seen. Your attention to detail is such a joy to experience. What’s been the most rewarding aspect of directing and designing Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol
MATT LOGAN: Wow, you are so kind. I do love theater design, but most of all it’s story and the impact it has on our lives that keeps bringing me back to the theater. In this process, my favorite part has been reconnecting with the childlike imagination that brings about theatrical magic. In all aspects of this piece, we tried to find the magical way to help tell the story of Ebenezer Scrooge . Sometimes it’s finding a new approach to period costume design or it’s using simple things to create ghosts and water. I will always be drawn to theater magic over realism. I hope that with everything I do, there is a strong approach to emotional realism and theatrical magic.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: When I spoke with Pete, I noted that A Christmas Carol is just the latest in a line of collaborations between the two of you as playwright and director. What keeps you saying yes to bringing his work to the stage?
MATT LOGAN: Haha! It’s such a joy working with Pete. Our gifts are completely different and yet we find a common goal for excellence. I will forever be in awe of Pete’s writing . His gift for language astounds me. On top of that he knows my work and my collaborators so well, that it gives us a shorthand on each project. In many ways, he envisions what I’m going to do with a piece as he’s writing it. We just fit together nicely and it’s a great blessing to have that synchronicity
JHPENTERTAINMENT: I understand this production will feature an original score. Can you tell me a bit about that?
MATT LOGAN: Yes, Anthony Matula is composing an original score for the piece. As you can imagine this is a very difficult thing to do with an original play. So much was in development and not set until the very end. So even now we are trying to finalize the details, but Tony offers such a unique sensibility to the score. He comes from the film world and has brought an incredible perspective to each scene. Our goal is to enhance the cinematic feel of our theater production
JHPENTERTAINMENT: On the subject of music, what’s your favorite holiday tune? And why does it hold such a special place in your mind?
MATT LOGAN: Hard to say, but I’ll Be Home for Christmas is my all-time favorite. I’ve sung it many times on stage because I was away from my hometown for about 12 years. This is when I lived in Los Angeles and New York. Nothing brought me greater joy than when I could come home for Christmas. I longed for it. My parents and grandparents always made the season so full of love. I’m definitely a Christmas guy, I love this time of year. And that’s why I’m so grateful to be sharing this season with Rabbit Room Theatre, our incredible cast, and this Middle Tennessee community.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: As alluded to in my first question for you, your attention to detail in even the most minute props or set design elements is always such fun to see. Is there something in this show that you’re hoping audience members will spot and get a smile from?
MATT LOGAN: Haha! There is so much of me in this piece. From real items to my designs for this show, my fingerprints are all over it. On my 21st birthday my mom gave me a Shakespeare bust. Years later I bought another one that is almost life size. Somehow this bust reminds me of the delight I found in theatre class with my high school drama teacher Paula Flautt. The idea of the stage and how I feel in love with it is symbolized by that bust. I had to add it to the stage pictures!
Rapid Fire with Ruthy Berends, Ghosts of Christmas Past and Future in Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol
JHPENTERTAINMENT: I just chatted with Matt Logan, your director and designer for A Christmas Carol. I saw a social media post previewing your wardrobe for The Ghost of Christmas Past. Of course it’s truly gorgeous. How much does wardrobe enhance your portrayal on stage?
RUTHY BERENDS: Ugh isn’t it glorious?! Wardrobe always helps me feel more connected to a role, but the magic and grandeur of the costumes Matt has created for Past (and Yet To Come) are especially impactful. Past is whimsical and twinkly and mysterious, and the dress Matt designed not only helps capture that for the audience, but also for me. I slip into it and immediately feel myself raising an eyebrow, putting my shoulders back, and really embodying the role we have all worked to create.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: Speaking of The Ghost of Christmas Future, you’re playing that role as well. Two very different roles. How much fun are you having in this duality?
RUTHY BERENDS: It’s a total delight. I love the contrast and the continuity I keep finding between the two. On the surface, they are very different; Past is spritely, light, and sparkly, and Future is dreadful, dark, and decrepit. Their demeanors are different, their costumes are different, they move very differently. But they’re also after the same thing: to help Scrooge see himself more fully and move him toward change. It’s been so fun getting to play with the different characters and their almost opposite tactics for achieving the same goal.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: A Christmas Carol marks your return to live theatre after having focused on tv and film in recent years. To my estimation, Matt Logan is a very cinematic director, so has that made the return to the stage easier for you?
RUTHY BERENDS: I’ve been working with Matt since I was 14 years old, so I feel very at home under his direction. It’s funny, in my audition for A Christmas Carol, Matt immediately gave me the same note he’s been giving me since I was a teenager – “Do it again but for the back of the room!” which made us both chuckle with knowing. He has always provided a safe and creative space to play and explore, and his approach was a huge reason I wanted to be an actor in the first place. And I definitely have a new appreciation for his ability to blend theatre and cinema after these years focusing on film, and his whole approach has made this experience a delight.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: I understand you’re a relatively new Mom. Given that, have you thought of any Christmas traditions, activities or holiday specials and movies that you are excited to introduce to you child as the years progress?
RUTHY BERENDS: Yes, my son just turned two! I would love for the arts to be a part of it, whether it’s seeing a play or going to the symphony or a choral recital. Definitely watching all of the Christmas movies: Home Alone, Elf, The Santa Clause, Christmas Vacation. And honestly, I can’t wait to see A Christmas Carol with him one day and talk all about its meaning. It’s become such an important story to me over these last several months.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: As written by the playwright, Pete Peterson, what’s your favorite aspect of the ghosts you play?
RUTHY BERENDS: Oh man, it’s so hard to name just one. I guess for Past I would say her wonder and humor. Pete has written her so beautifully as both deep/wise and funny/light-hearted, and I love playing with those different aspects in one character. It’s very complex and mysterious. And with Future, I love that she is not the usual hooded black shroud that one typically associates with A Christmas Carol. In this version, she is more akin to a decaying bride, a representation of all Scrooge has lost and still could lose if he stays on his curmudgeonly path. And the challenge of playing a character who does not speak but has so much to impart, is so fun.
Rapid Fire with Chip Arnold, Scrooge in Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol
JHPENTERTAINMENT: Having previously played Scrooge a few years in a row in another area theatre company’s production of A Christmas Carol, what stands out to you about this particular incarnation as adapted by Rabbit Room Theatre’s artistic director, Pete Peterson?
CHIP ARNOLD: A few things stood out immediately: Pete Peterson’s beautiful integration of his words with Dickens words. They are dense, beautiful, and require savory chewing. Then Pete’s incorporation of the spirit world beyond Marley, and his three ghostly ambassadors. And finally, Scrooge’s inner child is a revelation.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: This adaptation is directed by Matt Logan, another member of the area theatre community with whom you’ve worked with in the past. What’s your favorite aspect of Matt as a director?
CHIP ARNOLD: His vision. Matt is a visionary and the clarity with which he creates this vision. His generosity as he invites the actors into this vision and gives us the freedom to play and explore as we find ourselves becoming contributors to the story.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: In your estimation, is Scrooge villain or victim?
CHIP ARNOLD: Actually, neither. Modern cultures have created a one-dimensional character with descriptors such as “miserly” and “greedy.” This is not villainous. These of symptoms of hurt and rejection. In Pete’s version of the story, we explore the reasons why these choices were made.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: What’s one of your most cherished holiday memories?
CHIP ARNOLD: A tradition my wife and I started years ago with our grands is what we call the Christmas Tree Fairies who will come to our farm the day after Thanksgiving and leave a Christmas tree somewhere in the woods and we hike back to the woods in search of the treasure.
JHPENTERTAINMENT: What is it about this story that has proven a beloved part of the holiday season for 181 years?
CHIP ARNOLD: It is a story of rescue and redemption. And, for me personally, it is tied to the Nativity story that so many celebrate at this time of year. The point of the arrival of the Christ child was to save humankind. The point of the arrival of Marley and the Three Spirits was to save Ebenezer Scrooge. That tale never grows old.
Matt Logan Productions and Rabbit Room Theatre’s A Christmas Carol opens Saturday, December 4 and continues through Sunday, December 22 with performances Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays. Saturday and Sunday performances are at 2:30pm and 7:30pm. Wednesday shows are at 7:30pm. The final week of the run, there’s also a Thursday evening show at 7:30pm. Tickets start at $45. CLICK HERE to purchase tickets or for more information.
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