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I love it when our local theatre companies take risks and present something other than the expected. With Nashville Repertory Theatre’s production of Paul Vogel’s Indecent, at TPAC’s Johnson Theatre February 2-11, they’re taking just such a risk. Vogel’s Indecent first debuted in winter of 2015 as a co-production between Yale Repertory Theatre and La Jolla Playhouse before opening Off-Broadway in 2016 and eventually playing Broadway in 2017. Examining the true story of the brief 1923 two-week Broadway run of playwright Sholem Asch’s The God of Vengeance, Indecent delves into the controversies surround The God of Vengeance, including the fact that the entire cast, the producer and the theatre owner all eventually faced prosecution for violating obscenity laws. I’ll save more on that for my review after I attend an opening weened performance.

For now, what follows are my conversations with Indecent’s current director and members of Nashville Rep’s cast for the latest installment of my recurring interview feature, Rapid Fire 20Q. First up is Nashville Rep Artistic Director, Micah-Shane Brewer who’s at the helm of this production, then it’s on to my chats with cast members Thomas DeMarcus, Sarah Aili and Eric Sorrels.

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RAPID FIRE 20Q WITH DIRECTOR AND CAST OF NASHVILLE REP’S INDECENT

RAPID FIRE WITH INDECENT DIRECTOR, MICAH-SHANE BREWER

JHPENTERTAINMENT: As I mention in my intro, one thing I love about Nashville Repertory Theatre is you guys aren’t afraid to mix it up and present shows your audiences may never have had the chance to see. Indecent, on stage at TPAC’s Johnson Theatre February 2-11, is a perfect example. How did Indecent come to be selected as part of the current season? 

MICAH-SHANE BREWER: I saw the Broadway production of Indecent about 7 years ago. I went in not really knowing anything about the play. I left the theatre in awe of the experience I had received. It blended so many theatrical conventions into one – the style of storytelling and the passage of time, the music, the ensemble work, the stagecraft. It was compelling, moving and beyond anything I had witnessed in the theatre. I thought about the play for days. 

A couple of years ago, we were discussing plays and Indecent came up as an option. Last year, as we were finalizing decisions for this season, I picked it back up and read through it again. I was struck at how timely it is. Here we are today fighting the same battles as the characters are in this play: censorship, antisemitism, gay rights, women’s rights. We’re in the midst of so much strife in our country, and the voices of hate have been given a larger and louder platform over the last few years. We’re seeing history repeat itself in so many ways, and sometimes, it feels like we’re going backwards as a society. It felt right and it felt like it was time for us to tell this story. But it did (and does) scare me – in all the good ways a challenging piece of theatre should. It’s not easy, and there are so many moving parts to this production. 

JHPENTERTAINMENT: A bit of a follow-up…as Nashville Rep’s Artistic Director, do you automatically get first choice of the show’s you direct each season, or is there a process followed by eligible candidates interested in directing?

MICAH-SHANE BREWER: I suppose the answer to this question is yes; however, I give a great deal of thought to the needs of each production, especially for directors. For example, it was important to me to have female directors for both 9 to 5 and POTUS. It was very important to have a black director for The Color Purple. The programming of the season ALWAYS comes first, and then directors are chosen after. I chose to direct Indecent because this story and subject matter mean a great deal to me.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: When I first heard Nashville Rep was presenting Indecent, I gotta be honest. I knew next to nothing about the show. Researching to chat with you and some of your cast, I’ve learned a bit, but for those unfamiliar, can you tell me what it’s about?

MICAH-SHANE BREWER: Indecent is based on actual events. The play follows a troupe of Jewish artists who risked their lives to perform a work deemed “indecent.” It’s the story of Sholem Asch, a Jewish playwright, who, in 1906, wrote a play called The God of Vengeance. It was produced in Yiddish and had successful productions all over Europe. In 1922, there was a production on the Lower East Side in New York City and it was translated into English. The show then transferred to the Apollo Theatre on Broadway in 1923. It was promptly shut down and the cast and producer were arrested for obscenity and put on trial. Indecent is a love letter to the power of theatre, a cautionary tale of the consequences of censorship, and a reminder that love always triumphs over hate.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Representation matters. It’s a phrase…and practice… you hear more and more as people become increasingly aware of sensitivity towards others. To that end, as the director was there concern that certain stereotypes, whether in speech or mannerism be avoided? Did the cast work with a dialect coach or a Yiddish consultant in an effort to represent the Jewish characters as authentically as possible? 

MICAH-SHANE BREWER: Of course, representation does matter, and it’s important that all of us do the work to be authentic, truthful storytellers. The actors play a wide range of characters and use varying types of dialects and accents throughout the play. Although some of the characters are Yiddish, the majority of the time they are speaking in English. There are some Yiddish phrases and songs used throughout. Luckily, we’ve had a great team to give assistance to our actors. Nettie Craft is our Dialect and Voice coach and has been doing excellent work with each cast member crafting the correct sounds of each dialect. There’s a lot of technique when it comes to dialect and accents, and it takes a good ear, understanding of the vocal instrument and placement, and repetition for each actor to achieve the muscle memory of creating the exact sounds that are unique and authentic. We’ve also had the good fortune of having Howard Snyder as our dramaturg. Howard has been invaluable to this process by providing excellent research for so many areas of our production. Whenever you’re working with a story based on real people and events, it’s imperative to understand the historical context of the culture and the people you’re representing. Indecent spans almost 50 years, so there’s a lot to unpack: world events, Jewish culture, the political and social implications of the times, theatre history. Being a theatre artist means being an excavator; you have to dig for the details. You have to be a lover of learning. This cast has put in the time and attention to understanding and honoring every person, culture and moment in this story. 

JHPENTERTAINMENT: What about casting Jewish actors? Was there a consciences effort to include Jewish actors among the cast of Indecent? 

MICAH-SHANE BREWER: The goal was to have as many Jewish actors as possible. Part of the callback process is getting to know more about the actors and their background and connection to the material. Some of our actors are Jewish, and some descend from Jewish (and even Yiddish) cultures. On the first day of rehearsal, we had a lot of time to share about our history and backgrounds, and I was very moved at some of the personal stories shared. Some spoke of their grandparents and family members who immigrated to the United States. One of cast members shared that their grandmother was turned away at Ellis Island and had to return. Another cast member’s father grew up speaking Yiddish and provided assistance to the actor. 

As a director, I’ve always said that the biggest success of a show is its casting, and sometimes you just know when you see the actor who’s right for a certain role, and we struck a wonderful balance of actors for this production. This ensemble is one of the most thoughtful, caring, hard working, respectful, talented ensembles I’ve had the pleasure to work with. A lot of care has been given to the work throughout this process. Everyone holds this story close to their hearts. We honor the ones who are represented in this play who sacrificed their work, their reputations and even their lives. What’s great about the casting is that I feel everyone in this ensemble was MEANT to be in this cast; it was somewhat serendipitous how this casting came together so perfectly. I’m a lucky guy to be working with such a fantastic team.  

RAPID FIRE WITH INDECENT’s THOMAS DeMARCUS

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Last time we chatted you were appearing as Mrs. Trunchbull in a local production of Matilda back in 2019. You’ve appeared in a number of productions since, and now you’re about to take the stage at TPAC’s Johnson Theatre as Lemml, The Stage Manager in Nashville Rep’s Indecent. What can you tell me about Lemml?

THOMAS DeMARCUS: Oh, sweet sweet Agatha Trunchbull…you are about as far away from Lemml as one can get! I’m so thrilled to make my Nashville Rep debut with Indecent! There are many real people referenced in the play but Lemml is a fictional creation of the genius of playwright Paula Vogel. This play begs for the intimacy that the Johnson Theatre can provide. Lemml is a tailor from a small village who happens to attend the first reading of The God of Vengeance with his cousin and it will change the entire course of his life. He believes in the play. He wants to see it thrive. He tackles the role of stage manager with the utmost respect and reverence. He comes through Ellis Island with a dream like so many others. Lemml personifies hope.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Indecent touches on so many themes of injustice, acceptance and equality that are as relevant today as they were when The God of Vengeance, the play within the play was first written in 1906, then later mounted on Broadway in 1923. Here we are 100 years later and this play is still frequently described as ‘controversial’. What’s so controversial about equality?

THOMAS DeMARCUS: It has long been confusing to me that when underserved groups ask for equal rights, that the message twists into a loss of rights for others. That the balance of freedom for all has to come at a cost of losing the freedoms for some. It is never about having more rights than you, but having the same as you. The controversy, to some extent, must be that people hate the idea of losing their foothold on power and control. If one group can use the water fountain while another group can’t, and then one day everyone can use the water fountain, what has the first group truly lost? It doesn’t feel controversial, and yet oppression and suppression still linger.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: I noticed on Nashville Rep’s socials where they intro the cast, you cite that this performance is dedicated to your son, Leo. How important is it that audiences truly take in the messages presented in Indecent?

THOMAS DeMARCUS: I think it’s always noteworthy to self-evaluate how you might respond in a crisis or when your back is up against the wall, but perhaps it’s more important to evaluate your behavior when the thing fighting for its life is someone else, or some group, or some cause. How do you respond then? Indifference? Ignorance? Assistance? I want my son to grow up in a fair and loving household and I want that extended to a fair and loving world. To teach him right and wrong and to know how to use his voice but also his eyes and ears. I say this with no hyperbole, Leo is the greatest human who has ever lived, but I want the audience to fight for him just as hard as he will fight for them.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: What aspect of Lemml and his circumstances has been most challenging/gratifying to play? 

THOMAS DeMARCUS: After nearly 30 years of acting, I finally get to play a narrator! This show spans multiple countries, languages, and time periods so the challenge with Lemml is that he’s the audience’s through-line for the entire show. He introduces the troupe and he’s with the show all over Europe and when it comes to New York. Lemml is solid in his beliefs. He’s certainly naive and innocent when we first meet Lemml, but as the world around him consistently disappoints, he’s tasked with finding these fleeting pockets of hope. The gratifying part is I only have to play Lemml, while the rest of the cast has to switch characters multiple times. Thank goodness they are talented!

JHPENTERTAINMENT: This may seem an obvious question, but what is it about a 2015 play examining the circumstances surrounding a 1923 play that will pique audiences’ interest?

THOMAS DeMARCUS: There are two lines in the show where the audience can easily draw a connection to today: “it won’t happen here” and “these things happen”. In the play, they refer to anti-Semitism but isn’t this the same back and forth with gun-control debates? with hate-crimes? with domestic terror? with natural disasters? We have a tendency to assume that a nightmare cannot happen to us in our own community. Then it happens and we shrug our shoulders when the people in power fail to protect us. This play is telling you to not just fight for what you believe, but to defend those that cannot always fight back.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Indecent, not only examines the controversies of The God of Vengeance, but the closeness of community. I frequently ask actors I’m interviewing to speak of the community of actors as it relates to their current show. Do you feel a closeness to those you’re sharing the stage with?

THOMAS DeMARCUS: I have been extremely impressed by Nashville Rep‘s professionalism throughout this rehearsal process. Not just the immediate company, but this extends to our brilliant designers, our hard-working crew, and to our very thoughtful dialect coach and our very thorough dramaturg. Our director, Micah-Shane Brewer comes to each rehearsal with new ideas and new questions for us to ponder. I’ve known him for 12 years and it has been an honor to work with him on Indecent. It feels like everyone is taking this material with the seriousness that it deserves and we all want to make an important show. I’d like to believe that Nashville’s theatre community is loving and supportive, and this group has not changed that opinion. I have worked with only one member of this company before (Garris Wimmer; Spamalot; Studio Tenn; 2017) but I’d heard of so many others. And I would get texts from friends saying “oh you will LOVE Rona Carter” or “so many great people in this company!” and yes…they’re right. This show demands an ensemble that is on the same page, and thankfully that’s what this show has!

RAPID FIRE WITH INDECENT’s SARAH AILI

JHPENTERTAINMENT: A quick look at Indecent’s character list reveals you play Halina, among others. Can you speak a little about the process of creating differentiality between the roles you’re presenting in a single work?

SARAH AILI: Yes! Apart from portraying Halina in “The Middle,” I also take on roles like Manke, Immigrant, Freida, Dorothee Nelson/Dine, Dr. Hornig, and one of the Bagelman Sisters. Playing these characters consecutively provides a profound lesson in staying completely present. Once the initial challenge of getting my lines, blocking, choreo, quick change moments etc… right, immersing myself in the storyline becomes more seamless. In terms of character development, I prefer starting with physicality, tone, and melody. Exploring how my characters walk, move, shape vowels, hold themselves etc…leads to discovering the character’s essence. It’s akin to slipping in and out of a well-fitted coat. Making specific choices helps me swiftly embody these characters, crucial in a fast-paced show like this!

JHPENTERTAINMENT: If memory serves, the last time I saw you onstage at Nashville Rep was their 2018 production of Avenue Q. There’s been a few chances in staff at Nashville Rep since your last involvement. Are you enjoying being back and working with the current staff and creatives?

SARAH AILI: Oh yes, VERY much! Every experience I’ve had with Nashville Rep has been stellar. I adore Micah-Shane Brewer, working with him has been a true delight! 

JHPENTERTAINMENT: What can you tell me about Halina, the primary character you play in Indecent?

SARAH AILI: Halina, a woman in the prime of her life, a woman who has been through love and loss, pain and celebration, embraces the opportunity to portray compelling and juicy roles in Indecent. Immersed in playing a female character with tenacity in her soul, the experience of bringing her to life is genuinely fulfilling for me!

JHPENTERTAINMENT: While Indecent isn’t a musical, it incorporates music, dance and song as part of the full experiences. What’s the typical rehearsal schedule like incorporating all those elements?

SARAH AILI: From the initial rehearsal day of Indecent, our musicians have been integral members of the troupe, seated at the table with us. The seamless intertwining of music and dialogue is paramount to the poignant essence of the show. Without this precise harmony between story and song, I couldn’t envision Indecent coming to life in such a profound way. Our synchronization with the music is in perfect rhythm, and the music effortlessly aligns with the scenes in every instance.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Without revealing too much, do you have a favorite moment in the show? 

SARAH AILI: The entire show captivates me – its fluid movement, effortless exploration of profound depths, and the inherent ease and beauty it carries. The ensemble, a vital part of the narrative, is what I cherish the most. Sharing the stage with this group of immensely passionate and talented performers is my favorite aspect.

RAPID FIRE WITH INDECENT‘s ERIC SORRELS

JHPENTERTAINMENT: When I spoke with your cast mate, Thomas DeMarcus earlier, he revealed that Indecent will be his first Nashville Rep show. I understand it also marks your debut with the company. What’s the experience been like thus far?

ERIC SORRELS: It continues to be a wonderful experience. I grew up outside of Nashville in Lebanon, so being here feels a little bit like a homecoming. It’s also been a reunion with Micah-Shane Brewer, with whom I shared the stage in Knoxville several times at the Clarence Brown Theatre. In my experience, the way a particular theatre company feels hinges on the leadership of the director. From day one with Indecent, Micah-Shane fostered a room that allowed us to bond as an ensemble, put us all on the same foot as equals, and motivated me to bring my very best self to rehearsal each day. The only issue with the rehearsal process was that insane arctic weather we had for about a week. But even then, that was just a chance for me to see how dedicated Nashville Rep is to its people; Micah-Shane and our stage manager Isaac Krispin would go out of their way to pick up actors on the way to rehearsal to ensure everybody could make it there safely. Needless to say, I’d come back to work with Nashville Rep anytime they’ll have me.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: While it may be your Nashville Rep debut, you’ve got quite the career resume. Your credits reveal you were among the cast of North Carolina Theatre’s production of Beautiful: The Carole King Musical where you were not only part of the ensemble, but also appeared as Neil Sedaka, Lou Adler and half of the music duo, The Righteous Brothers. What was your favorite aspect of that production?

ERIC SORRELS: One of the reasons I love Beautiful is because even though Carole is obviously at the center, every cast member has a chance to shine. As the Righteous Brothers, we would get entrance applause before we even started singing — that’s how excited the audience was to hear You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling. But to bring the question back to this production: there’s a moment in Indecent when the characters talk about how they gather at the wings of the theatre to watch a very special scene take place night after night. In Beautiful, I was that actor gathering at the wings to watch our Carole (Elena Ricardo) perform Some Kind of Wonderful, It’s Too Late and You’ve Got a Friend. Watching her shine never got old.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Back to Indecent, you play Moriz Godowsky. What can you tell me about him?

ERIC SORRELS: The musicians don’t actually have any lines in the play, so I’m really free to bring a lot of myself to Moriz. To that end, he’s a pretty mild-mannered guy, self-taught on the accordion and ukulele, and he gets a lot of joy out of watching his actor companions tell this beautiful story and transform into so many different characters. One fun detail we discovered is that Otto the Elder (played by Garris Wimmer) and Moriz share the same last name in the script. We’re not really sure why, and it doesn’t affect the storytelling all that much, but we’ve agreed that Otto and Moriz must be family.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: As you mentioned, Moriz plays the accordion during interwoven musical segments featuring Klezmer music. Here’s a two-parter for you…For the uninformed, what is Klezmer and is it true you just first picked up the accordion just over a year ago for a production of The Great Comet of 1812? 

ERIC SORRELS: Klezmer is a musical tradition originated by the Ashkenazi Jews of Central and Eastern Europe. It’s a really expressive and dramatic musical style, with melodies that evoke big human emotions. The instrumentation is key too — klezmer music typically includes violin, accordion, clarinet, and percussion, as is the case for Indecent. I first encountered klezmer music as a member of the professional choir at Temple Emanu-El in New York City (a synagogue which Indecent references at one point!). I think it speaks to the unique experience of the Jewish diaspora that klezmer has made its way across time and space from centuries ago in Europe to Music City, USA in 2024. 

Yes! I have a background as a piano player, but the first time I ever held an accordion was October 2022 for Theatre Raleigh’s production of The Great Comet. The versatility of this instrument continues to amaze me. It’s kind of like walking around with a pipe organ strapped to your chest. The score of Indecent has been an opportunity for me to take my accordion-playing to the next level, and learning some of the trickier passages of this score has been extremely rewarding.

JHPENTERTAINMENT: Lately, I’ve ended my interviews by asking the last person I speak with a variation on this same question…What do you hope audiences take with them after having experienced Indecent at Nashville Rep?

ERIC SORRELS: I think for me, Indecent is a reminder of why we make theatre, why we attend the theatre, and why theatre will always be a vital part of human expression. The theatre is a sacred space where we can hold and examine our collective memory. I’m reminded of a classic Arthur Miller line from Death of a Salesman: “Attention must be paid.” We go to the theatre to pay attention; to remember parts of human history that would otherwise be forgotten; to find ourselves in a character who appears to have totally different experience from us. This play also reminds us that as long as there have been artists willing to show all the facets of humanity, from innocence to depravity, there have been those wishing to censor what they judge to be unsavory, immoral, or — yes, I’m going to say it — indecent. To that end, I hope audiences leave with a renewed appetite to see, support, and make more daring theatre.

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Nashville Repertory Theatre’s Indecent plays TPAC’s Johnson Theatre Thursday, February 2 thru Sunday, February 11. CLICK HERE for tickets to this powerful play. Following Indecent, Nashville Rep will host two nights of staged readings of playwright Lydia R. Diamond’s Stick Fly at Nashville Public Television’s Rains Avenue studio as part of their REPaloud series. Visit nashvillerep.org to secure your FREE spots for either night. Next up, The Rep will continue their regular season with The Color Purple on stage at TPAC’s Polk Theatre. The beloved musical based on Alice Walker’s classic novel will run April 5-14.  In the meantime, check out Nashville Rep online and follow them on Facebook, X, YouTube and Instagram.

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